This guess from the records has since been confirmed by the marriage certificate {Many Thanks to both Peter and Clive - full details appear elsewhere.}
Results from earlier census:
1891 - Kate C. Shackleford is one of two Domestic servants in the household of a Solicitor (Frances Greeney) of Forest Gate, West Ham. It's recorded that she was born in London, St. Lukes', in ~1867, and she is single.
Back to 1881 - Her father is listed as Thomas A. {or it could be G.} Shackleford (39) - born Reading, a Smith & Iron plate worker. His wife is Sarah, (39), born Reading. All the 7 children (Kate the eldest at 14, Ellen, twins Charlotte & George, Alfred, Elizabeth and baby Ann) were born Middlesex.
They live at 19 Bertram St., Kentish Town (which had 3 households in it).Back to 1871, Frederick J. Shackleford, Iron Plater - born Reading (33 or 23, not clear) and wife Sarah (28), daurs Kate (4) & Ellen (2). Also his younger brother, Boiler Maker Edward Shackleford.
{Wierd. It has to be said, the 1871 form is very hard to read - but it does say Frederick, and the 1881 form does say Thomas. The forms we see now have been copied out by the enumerator from the original household forms, so we have to presume it was a Friday afternoon by the time he or she got to that form.
Peter has sent me a copy of the marriage certificate for Frederick George Shackleford and Sarah Lukeman in Reading. (None are recorded in the registers for a Thomas & Sarah.) On 2nd October, 1864 - Marriage of Frederick George Shackleford (Occupation; Tinman) & Sarah Lukeman at St. Giles, Reading. Both were residents of Reading at the time, and both are aged 22 yrs old.
Their fathers are named: George Shackleford (Tinman) and James Lukeman (Labourer).
{Not that kind of Tin Man!}
Cousin Clive has confirmed the details set out below, on Kate Shackleford's parents. (Peter introduced me to Clive - more on him below. He has been very generous in providing details of his research for us to share.)
Kate Charlotte Shackleford born 15/1/1867, St. Luke's, Middlesex.
Died in Darlington, 1953.
Mother Sarah Lukeman, born 1842 St. Giles, Reading. Died Greenwich, 1915.
Father Frederick George Shackleford, born 1842 Reading; Iron Plate worker. Died 1928 Reading. {quite an age!}
Further to this, Peter passed on a copy of Fred's birth certificate. That gives his father's name, but also his Mother - Charlotte Shackleford. Her maiden name was Liman (well, that's what it looks like to me!)
Frederick George was born on Oct 20th, 1842 at Chatham St, Reading (St. Mary's).
I looked up a marriage on FreeBMD between George Shackleford & Charlotte Liman, and found one in the last quarter of 1837, in the Bradfield district which is West of Reading {Vol 6, p.239}.
And then finally, a copy of Sarah's birth certificate.
This reveals that her mother was named Eliza Lukeman, formerly Withers. Sarah was born on 12th May, 1842, at a cottage in Spring Gardens, Reading (St. Giles').
Her father, James Lukeman, is again described as a Labourer.
I looked up a marriage on FreeBMD between James Lukeman & Eliza Withers, and found one in the Sept quarter of 1841, in the Reading district {Vol 6, p.334}. James Lukeman is possibly the man who died in 1880 in the Reading district, aged 61. That same list tells us that some men named James Lukeman died in the Reading district in the years 1841 & 1843, too. Also Eliza Lukeman who died in 1843 (Reading).
That's great, Peter! I haven't updated the family tree at the bottom of the page yet, but I will. Then all will be clear.
Back to Kate
We know from their marriage certificate (8th June 1893) that Charles Hallworth married Kate Charlotte Shackleford in the Parish Church of All Saint's, Forest Gate, Essex. Charles was a 28 year-old Coachman, living in Dinsdale, Yorkshire. Kate was a 26 year-old, living in Manor Park (area of Forest Gate, now Newham).
Their fathers are given as a Baker and a General Smith, respectively.
Their fathers are named: George Shackleford (Tinman) and James Lukeman (Labourer).
{Not that kind of Tin Man!}
Cousin Clive has confirmed the details set out below, on Kate Shackleford's parents. (Peter introduced me to Clive - more on him below. He has been very generous in providing details of his research for us to share.)
Kate Charlotte Shackleford born 15/1/1867, St. Luke's, Middlesex.
Died in Darlington, 1953.
Mother Sarah Lukeman, born 1842 St. Giles, Reading. Died Greenwich, 1915.
Father Frederick George Shackleford, born 1842 Reading; Iron Plate worker. Died 1928 Reading. {quite an age!}
Further to this, Peter passed on a copy of Fred's birth certificate. That gives his father's name, but also his Mother - Charlotte Shackleford. Her maiden name was Liman (well, that's what it looks like to me!)
Frederick George was born on Oct 20th, 1842 at Chatham St, Reading (St. Mary's).
I looked up a marriage on FreeBMD between George Shackleford & Charlotte Liman, and found one in the last quarter of 1837, in the Bradfield district which is West of Reading {Vol 6, p.239}.
And then finally, a copy of Sarah's birth certificate.
This reveals that her mother was named Eliza Lukeman, formerly Withers. Sarah was born on 12th May, 1842, at a cottage in Spring Gardens, Reading (St. Giles').
Her father, James Lukeman, is again described as a Labourer.
I looked up a marriage on FreeBMD between James Lukeman & Eliza Withers, and found one in the Sept quarter of 1841, in the Reading district {Vol 6, p.334}. James Lukeman is possibly the man who died in 1880 in the Reading district, aged 61. That same list tells us that some men named James Lukeman died in the Reading district in the years 1841 & 1843, too. Also Eliza Lukeman who died in 1843 (Reading).
That's great, Peter! I haven't updated the family tree at the bottom of the page yet, but I will. Then all will be clear.
Back to Kate
We know from their marriage certificate (8th June 1893) that Charles Hallworth married Kate Charlotte Shackleford in the Parish Church of All Saint's, Forest Gate, Essex. Charles was a 28 year-old Coachman, living in Dinsdale, Yorkshire. Kate was a 26 year-old, living in Manor Park (area of Forest Gate, now Newham).
Their fathers are given as a Baker and a General Smith, respectively.
Kate's first child, Kate Junior
Kate had a daughter Kate May, born 11th May 1888 at 19, Whitepost Lane in Little Ilford, (East Ham) Essex. (An extensive page here about the area - search for the words "White Post".) Clive has shared with us a copy of her Birth Certificate, which gives her father's name as Charles Hallsworth {sic} (a Gentleman's Coachman), and her mother's name as Kate Charlotte Hallsworth (formerly Shackleford).We know that Kate C. Shackleford and Charles Hallworth married long after this in 1893, however. On the birth certificate, the column 'Name of Father' could (and often was) easily have been left blank, so it's nice to see that it was not in this case. As Clive puts it, this shows us that Charles was "entirely committed to" marrying Kate. She would, perhaps, have been thought of as his commonlaw wife at the time of Kate May's birth. (It was commonly felt that those In Service ought not to be married.)
In 1891, Kate Junior (aged 2, born Essex) is listed as the daughter of her grandparents Fred & Sarah Shackleford, living in Little Ilford. Also in the house are their children George, Alfred, Henry, John and Annie.
It was fairly common to bring children up in houses other than their parents' house. Kate's mother was In Service in another town. Also in this particular case, they may have referred to Kate as their daughter to avoid any awkwardness, as she was born before her parents got married. Alternatively, one of the census scripts could very easily have a mistake in it!
Her father (we have seen elsewhere in this blog) has been found in the 1891 census working at a house in Chepstow, whilst her mother was a Domestic in the West Ham area. It is interesting to note that both are described as Single in the census returns. At the time of Kate's marriage (1893), Charles is working at Sockburn, we can presume.
At some time before the birth of their second child, Lilian, both Kate and Charles have moved up to the Yorkshire/Durham border and settled there, with Charles certainly working at Sockburn Hall in the year 1901. Family history has it that Kate Charlotte also worked at Sockburn Hall for a while, as a cook. Their four other children are all listed as born in Over Dinsdale. Kate May, however, remained in Essex/Greenwich to be brought up by her grandparents with their other children, who were more her own age. Younger generations descended from the Over Dinsdale children seem to have not met Kate, although there certainly was a visit early on...
Clive:The visit - we thought at first - may have been for the 1923 wedding of Charles's son (Charles George Hallworth) to Elsie Porrit. George's grandson Peter has kindly allowed a photo of that wedding to be put up on this blog (it appears in his book, 'The Stokesley Scene Collection'). (See this post for photo.) Sadly we now know {thanks to the memories of a contemporary} that the lady in the photo we wrongly assumed to be Kate Junior was in fact a friend of the bride. Kate perhaps was unable to travel to the wedding, as their son George was born soon afterwards (August 1923).
"I suspect that the family- Charles, Kate Charlotte, and their four children following their marriage rarely saw my Grandmother, Kate, who lived with the Shacklefords. The others were 'Up North'. I know from my aunt (who is still alive) that she and my mother with their mother {Kate May} visited the Hallworths in Stokesley at least once, probably in the late 1920’s."
According to the National Census, Kate May (aged 12) was living in 1901 (at 10, Albion Hill, Greenwich) with her grandparents, Fred George Shackleford (58, 'Smith worker in Iron', born Reading) and Sarah Shackleford (58, born Reading). Here in 1901, she is described as the grand-daughter of the Head of Household, but still entered with the name Shackleford.
Also with their other bairns, Annie (20; dressmaker), Henry (18, also a Smith) and Walter (13).
In 1911, the 22 yr-old Kate May was been entered on the Census data as living at 10, Albion Mill or Hill in Lewisham (where there is now an Albion Way... or according to this page, Albion Hill became Coldbath St).
She was living with Sarah & Frederick George Shackleford, a General Smith at (?) Constructive Iron Works. Here's a link to a Google Map which will show you both Coldbath St (ex-Albion Hill) and Pomeroy St where the Hatcham Iron Works were sited - now you can seen their engines on the Ffestiniog Railway, North Wales. Was this where Fred worked? - though by then it would have been the Fairlie Works. Alternatively, it may be that he worked at the J. Stone and Company Limited, Arklow Road, Childers Street, Rolt Street, Lewisham (Brass, Copper and Iron Works) - which I read of in the London Metropolitan Archives.
You can read a little about Lewisham (and some pictures, too) - here.
Walter was in the same area, but not in the same household. This time she is given the name Kate Hallworth, and was listed as Fred's grandaughter.
The form gives extra details about her grandparents, who were then aged 68. They had been married in 1911 for 46 years, and had 12 children (of whom 3 had died by 1911). We know of Kate, and also George, Alfred, Henry (twice?), John, Annie and Walter from the census.
Here's a pretty photograph of the young Kate, taken when she became engaged. Clive thinks that she is "wearing her formal office outfit". Thanks for sending, it, Clive!
(It has briefly appeared in another post, I've just moved it.)
Kate May Hallworth married Sidney German who was a draughtsman and later a tool designer. He worked at that profession all through the First World War despite various attempts to “join up” in the army. Kate had worked with him in an office (possibly as his secretary). They married in 1914 and had four children: 3 girls & a boy.
As Clive says, they did not stay in one place in their lives.
"Sid’s family came from Bath and lived in Greenwich at the time of their marriage. Kate had been born in Little Ilford. Their first daughter was born in Coventry, and they moved around after that. Twenty years later, they were living in Ilford and at the outbreak of World War II they were living in Hayes, Middlesex. Their moves during those years were largely determined by Sid’s work. They retired to Melbourne, Australia with their eldest daughter, but Kate found it too hot and so they returned after 3 years, settling instead in Sompting near Worthing on the south coast.
Kate May was a widow for many years, since Sidney died in 1969. She died at the grand age of 104 years and 9 months, in 1992.
Here is Kate May German in Eastbourne (1970) with her son George (1923-2007).
In fact, two of Kate's daughter's emigrated to Australia, and it is from her grandson Clive (in Australia) that I have found out much of this information I share with you today. He maintains an interest in genealogy through the computer records which are available online, and I got in touch with him thanks to Genes Reunited and Peter Hallworth. Thanks again to Clive for all his help with this material on his mother.
Here's a picture of him in the sun:
Interesting to note that, as I write this, it's hailing here - whilst Clive is probably sipping chilled Cabernet Sauvignon by a pool somewhere.
While we are enjoying some sun- here's a photo of Peter, too. It was taken in Egypt.
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